Carol Stanley
According to Joann Corson, a close friend of Carol's there will be no memorial. Carol will be cremated.
Saturday, March 12, 2005
Jim Jubb's home at509 NE 60th St. Click on each picture to enlarge them.
A new siding job in the park. Jim Jubb's home is the first home to be covered by plastic siding in our community. Previously this had not be allowed by management. Jim said that the entire job including the garage cost about $7000. The material is warranteed for the life of the home. Jim also said it will withstand winds of 130mph. It never needs painting and only needs to be washed off when dirty. Jim said the siding was put on with galvanized nails. The soffets can be seen in the above view and are now plastic also and the outside trim is anodized aluminum with a plastic covering pre-formed to fit.
He showed me a sample of it and it has a backing of foam which I presume is for insulation.
Still we would recommend that you check with the park manager before signing up with a contractor to do the job as you might conflict with park rules. Just a short time ago our neighbor across the street tried to do the same thing and was shut down by management. One of those folks suffered a heart attack and died shortly after that confrontation and his wife has sold and moved on.
ALWAYS CHECK WITH MANAGEMENT BEFORE STARTING ON A HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
In the below article where folks expressed their opinions...
ron thomas
I promised to bring all the points back so we could look at them and have a more drilled down look at each point. So we could all decide if there is a good way to improve the point or let it stand as is.
That being said it is not the purpose here to create feelings of guilt. Nor, do we wish to challenge anybodies right to be an American and choose to do or think whatever they wish. Nor is one person's opinion to be taken as the way things must be said or done.It would be healthy if folks would not consider what is written here as a personal attack. If you really are upset about what you read let me invite you to sign on to this website as a team writer where you can write articles (called posts).This site is meant to be a forum, park news, and a fun entertainment place. It is continually evolving (changing) based on what is learned. The underlying rules for this place are follows:
Here is point number 1 from the article:
The park will experience a social breakup, disintegrating into small splinter groups and limit socializing.
In MY OPINION:
The actual Social Club is made up of about 30 people who attend meetings and about 2/3 of that amount that help with Club Activities on a regular basis. What is the bussiness of the club? Historically it looks like whatever group is in charge is responsible for the care and feeding of about 30 to 80 people depending on whether the feeding is free or not. The closer to free food we go the more eaters we can expect.
Would a social break up then equate to... If people won't volunteer to cook and serve food then the Social Club will break up.
Now if the Social Club's bussiness were to grow clubs and not feed people. What would that do toward dividing the park?
Clubs would grow and people interested in their activities would join. they would eventually need money to operate and they would most likely have fund raisers which could be dinners and breakfasts. It is likely they would have a member base to carry that out. So the result is the same as far as dinners and breakfast go but the chore is spread around in a more equitable way.
Let me site a current example.... The group that plays pool at the clubhouse feels it needs to re-felt the pool tables, an expensive proposition. They think it's not right for the Social Club to be asked to foot the bill because they have a small group. Dick Bellingham, who is one of their members suggested that they paint a home this summer to help raise the funds necessary to do the job. In this instance if the club were short after their fund raiser the Social Club would help. Now that is an example of what will happen if clubs are supported and helped to grow.
If the Social Club got out of the food service business and went into helping clubs that serve the interests of park residents. More folks would be served. Already the clubs that exist in the park provide more activity for more than double the residents that the Social Club does. I say put the money where that interest lies and encourage growth in clubs by becoming sponsors of the clubs.
I promised to bring all the points back so we could look at them and have a more drilled down look at each point. So we could all decide if there is a good way to improve the point or let it stand as is.
That being said it is not the purpose here to create feelings of guilt. Nor, do we wish to challenge anybodies right to be an American and choose to do or think whatever they wish. Nor is one person's opinion to be taken as the way things must be said or done.It would be healthy if folks would not consider what is written here as a personal attack. If you really are upset about what you read let me invite you to sign on to this website as a team writer where you can write articles (called posts).This site is meant to be a forum, park news, and a fun entertainment place. It is continually evolving (changing) based on what is learned. The underlying rules for this place are follows:
- Follow The Golden Rule.
- No political discussions of the Republican vs the Democrat type.
- No religious protelitizing.
Here is point number 1 from the article:
The park will experience a social breakup, disintegrating into small splinter groups and limit socializing.
In MY OPINION:
The actual Social Club is made up of about 30 people who attend meetings and about 2/3 of that amount that help with Club Activities on a regular basis. What is the bussiness of the club? Historically it looks like whatever group is in charge is responsible for the care and feeding of about 30 to 80 people depending on whether the feeding is free or not. The closer to free food we go the more eaters we can expect.
Would a social break up then equate to... If people won't volunteer to cook and serve food then the Social Club will break up.
Now if the Social Club's bussiness were to grow clubs and not feed people. What would that do toward dividing the park?
Clubs would grow and people interested in their activities would join. they would eventually need money to operate and they would most likely have fund raisers which could be dinners and breakfasts. It is likely they would have a member base to carry that out. So the result is the same as far as dinners and breakfast go but the chore is spread around in a more equitable way.
Let me site a current example.... The group that plays pool at the clubhouse feels it needs to re-felt the pool tables, an expensive proposition. They think it's not right for the Social Club to be asked to foot the bill because they have a small group. Dick Bellingham, who is one of their members suggested that they paint a home this summer to help raise the funds necessary to do the job. In this instance if the club were short after their fund raiser the Social Club would help. Now that is an example of what will happen if clubs are supported and helped to grow.
If the Social Club got out of the food service business and went into helping clubs that serve the interests of park residents. More folks would be served. Already the clubs that exist in the park provide more activity for more than double the residents that the Social Club does. I say put the money where that interest lies and encourage growth in clubs by becoming sponsors of the clubs.
Friday, March 11, 2005
McKinley Services....
ron thomas
When you have a good experience with a contractor ... You ought to tell everybody about it. This is a fella that goes under your home and fixes level problems. In addition to that he found a water leak and fixed it. He came out with several recomendations. From instructions about air vents.. when to close them and when not to. Drainage ideas. And excellent suggetsions about what to do about your water heater to keep it from damaging your subfloor should it leak. These were all things I didn't know about with these modular homes since we had never had one before this experience.
My personal rating on a scale of one to five stars..... 5 stars. Price was $125.
When you have a good experience with a contractor ... You ought to tell everybody about it. This is a fella that goes under your home and fixes level problems. In addition to that he found a water leak and fixed it. He came out with several recomendations. From instructions about air vents.. when to close them and when not to. Drainage ideas. And excellent suggetsions about what to do about your water heater to keep it from damaging your subfloor should it leak. These were all things I didn't know about with these modular homes since we had never had one before this experience.
My personal rating on a scale of one to five stars..... 5 stars. Price was $125.
Siding...
ron thomas
A few months ago one of the folks in the neighborhood had a new type of siding installed on their home. One that previously had not been allowed. Evidently this is a better product and the owner spoke to Brian Fitterer (one of the park owners) to get permission to install it.
We would like to know more about this product and if it is a better solution for the problems that affect home owners. Is anyone up on what this stuff is? If you are a reader and had it done could you share your experience with us?
If you would rather not write in the comments please email me at:
teckron@hotmail.com
and I will write about it here.
A few months ago one of the folks in the neighborhood had a new type of siding installed on their home. One that previously had not been allowed. Evidently this is a better product and the owner spoke to Brian Fitterer (one of the park owners) to get permission to install it.
We would like to know more about this product and if it is a better solution for the problems that affect home owners. Is anyone up on what this stuff is? If you are a reader and had it done could you share your experience with us?
If you would rather not write in the comments please email me at:
teckron@hotmail.com
and I will write about it here.
Tuesday, March 08, 2005
Evolving the Social Club, a vision....
Ron Thomas
There are loosely knit groups that come together to use the club house and provide entertainment for park residents. I think these groups would funtion better if they were clubs and I think that the Social Club would be the ideal body to support such groups and to have them take the lead in making park activities.
For instance, who knows more about cards? The Social Club or the Pinochle group? Let's just say the pinochle group became the card club. They have a weekly game that entertains 20 to 40 people and is open to all right now. In fact they probably entertain the most people in the park. Shouldn't they receive a large monetary support from the Social Club for doing a good job? What would they do if they were encouraged to grow their love of cards? Would they start having Texas Hold'em Tounaments? Maybe bridge would take a foothold.. Who knows what opportunities to increase park activities are being neglected?
For instance what if the Bingo group became a club? They already provide entertainment for about 14 people every two weeks but when the jackpots were around $50, 45 or so would come per night. If the Social Club granted them an extra stipend to increase jackpot size or provide refreshments what might happen? If that pot was $100 how many would come? What could be charged for cards? Even if the club was not capable of completely supporting itself 45+ people being entertained 2 times a month... I would call that a Social Club victory.
People like to eat... Why isn't there a diners club? Some people like to set up and cook meals at the club house but with a diners club local restraunts could be approached asking for discounts for club members who would visit their establishments on a regular basis. Using club power this group would garner savings.
There is a fisherman's club recently formed if the Social Club did something to help that group grow its membership what would happen? Maybe an all park fish fry.
There is a poker group.. What if the Social Club had a clear idea of how to help them and did... Would that increase the number of park people having fun?
Now imagine the Social Club providing seed money to folks wanting to form a new club like a computer club, coin club, stamp club, rockhounds, golf, gardening,wiffle ball, croquet, backgammon, checkers. chess, horseshoes, shuffleboard, sewing, quilting, bird watching.
In this manner the Social Club does not find itself locked into the outfit billed to provide dinners and breakfasts, and decorations but becomes the driving force behind helping all Social Activities park wide while the clubs support themselves for their own interests with members and their own money eventually. Meanwhile the Social Club gives them a start and later they maintain the social club perhaps with a member from each club on the board.
This approach is not meant to divide the park but provide more interests for the greater number of people thereby increasing more participation by more people.
This is a uniting idea, not a dividing idea.
What if the Social club lined up entertainment for the park instead of trying to do it? Paid for it. Should they get the local High School band, acapella chior, artists and donate to them for entertainment here at the park. What the hey! How about the band leading a parade up and down our streets?
That is my vision of the Social Club.... a body that helps our clubs organize events for the community. Clubs have the manpower to attain goals of interest to their members. The Social Club assists with money and advice. Eventually, the members of the clubs supply a member to the board of the Social Club and the clubs then run the Social Club.
Now I haven't asked anybody to feel bad. I don't mean you can't choose to do just what you want and when you want to do it. I'm not attacking your right to be an American. To those that feel that way I would say this article is not written for nor about you. This is simply an idea for changing the way the Social Club works... A different view of how it could work. I bear malice toward no one nor do I think my way is necessarily the only or right way. This is an idea I had and that's it. I would like comments exploring the why it may work or not. I would like to see your ideas added to this. I'm not to crazy about statements like, "I don't think this will work." with no explanation of why you think that.
One thing I would like to say is that I.... Me, personally will never grow tired of thanking and appreciating the many people who have helped the Social Club and its projects. I will never weary of holding them in the highest esteem. I will toot their horn every chance I have even if folks are tired of hearing it.
There are loosely knit groups that come together to use the club house and provide entertainment for park residents. I think these groups would funtion better if they were clubs and I think that the Social Club would be the ideal body to support such groups and to have them take the lead in making park activities.
For instance, who knows more about cards? The Social Club or the Pinochle group? Let's just say the pinochle group became the card club. They have a weekly game that entertains 20 to 40 people and is open to all right now. In fact they probably entertain the most people in the park. Shouldn't they receive a large monetary support from the Social Club for doing a good job? What would they do if they were encouraged to grow their love of cards? Would they start having Texas Hold'em Tounaments? Maybe bridge would take a foothold.. Who knows what opportunities to increase park activities are being neglected?
For instance what if the Bingo group became a club? They already provide entertainment for about 14 people every two weeks but when the jackpots were around $50, 45 or so would come per night. If the Social Club granted them an extra stipend to increase jackpot size or provide refreshments what might happen? If that pot was $100 how many would come? What could be charged for cards? Even if the club was not capable of completely supporting itself 45+ people being entertained 2 times a month... I would call that a Social Club victory.
People like to eat... Why isn't there a diners club? Some people like to set up and cook meals at the club house but with a diners club local restraunts could be approached asking for discounts for club members who would visit their establishments on a regular basis. Using club power this group would garner savings.
There is a fisherman's club recently formed if the Social Club did something to help that group grow its membership what would happen? Maybe an all park fish fry.
There is a poker group.. What if the Social Club had a clear idea of how to help them and did... Would that increase the number of park people having fun?
Now imagine the Social Club providing seed money to folks wanting to form a new club like a computer club, coin club, stamp club, rockhounds, golf, gardening,wiffle ball, croquet, backgammon, checkers. chess, horseshoes, shuffleboard, sewing, quilting, bird watching.
In this manner the Social Club does not find itself locked into the outfit billed to provide dinners and breakfasts, and decorations but becomes the driving force behind helping all Social Activities park wide while the clubs support themselves for their own interests with members and their own money eventually. Meanwhile the Social Club gives them a start and later they maintain the social club perhaps with a member from each club on the board.
This approach is not meant to divide the park but provide more interests for the greater number of people thereby increasing more participation by more people.
This is a uniting idea, not a dividing idea.
What if the Social club lined up entertainment for the park instead of trying to do it? Paid for it. Should they get the local High School band, acapella chior, artists and donate to them for entertainment here at the park. What the hey! How about the band leading a parade up and down our streets?
That is my vision of the Social Club.... a body that helps our clubs organize events for the community. Clubs have the manpower to attain goals of interest to their members. The Social Club assists with money and advice. Eventually, the members of the clubs supply a member to the board of the Social Club and the clubs then run the Social Club.
Now I haven't asked anybody to feel bad. I don't mean you can't choose to do just what you want and when you want to do it. I'm not attacking your right to be an American. To those that feel that way I would say this article is not written for nor about you. This is simply an idea for changing the way the Social Club works... A different view of how it could work. I bear malice toward no one nor do I think my way is necessarily the only or right way. This is an idea I had and that's it. I would like comments exploring the why it may work or not. I would like to see your ideas added to this. I'm not to crazy about statements like, "I don't think this will work." with no explanation of why you think that.
One thing I would like to say is that I.... Me, personally will never grow tired of thanking and appreciating the many people who have helped the Social Club and its projects. I will never weary of holding them in the highest esteem. I will toot their horn every chance I have even if folks are tired of hearing it.
Monday, March 07, 2005
EVOLVING....
ron thomas
For those involved in or have read but not commented on the below article on Evolving the Social Club. I want to point out we are trying out something new... As commenting on the idea happens we pick up the negative features that folks are finding wrong with the idea and put them at the bottom of the article so you can easily see what folks think. This means the article may change several times a day. So even if you don't care to say anything you might want to take a look at the bulleted concerns at the bottom of that article to keep up with the discussion.
For those involved in or have read but not commented on the below article on Evolving the Social Club. I want to point out we are trying out something new... As commenting on the idea happens we pick up the negative features that folks are finding wrong with the idea and put them at the bottom of the article so you can easily see what folks think. This means the article may change several times a day. So even if you don't care to say anything you might want to take a look at the bulleted concerns at the bottom of that article to keep up with the discussion.
Sunday, March 06, 2005
FIREFOX has a new security upgrade for users of this cool new browser...
from an email by jim dodds
In an email Jim Dodds wanted you Firefox users know that there is a new security update that is available for you to download. All you have to do is visit the below link and simply download the current version of Firefox which has the new fix. After it is done you will find a new icon on your desktop that says Firefox setup. Click it and follow the instructions... Problems give me a call.
Firefox
What's happening on the hill?
not so good pictures by ron thomas.. who would like a photagrapher to join the web page...hint
See a Visitor From Outter Space....
ron thomas
Accrding to the NASA web site we can expect to view the International Space Station in our sky... Check out this site for date and times (table is for Portland but should work here).
International Space Station
Accrding to the NASA web site we can expect to view the International Space Station in our sky... Check out this site for date and times (table is for Portland but should work here).
International Space Station
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