Red light problem...

ron thomas


Last night John & Mary Spangler's red light went off. Their neighbors the Kalar's saw it and called the paramedics. John and Mary live next door to the Furgason's and Bob Abbott on NE56th st.


Here is what happened... Their red light went off a little before 2:00am. There was no reason for it to have activated. John said the transceiver was in a kitchen drawer which would make the light non operational. Theroretically a neighbor could have set it off but his neighbors don't use the code that he has. That leaves me with kind of a, "I don't know how that happened"... Kind of explanation. This has happened one other time in the last three years and we don't know what caused either one.


Marilyn Kalar saw the light. She lives on the hill overlooking the Spangler home. She called 911 and reported it. Soon the paramedics came to the park but took a wrong turn on Evergreen. Marylin jumped in her car and ran after them finally, catching up to them over by the Rose's and Hart's homes and told them they were in the wrong place.


The paramedics then ended up over at John and Mary's home where they banged on the door. John roused out of sleep went to the door where the paramedic stood with defibulator and medical equipment and said , "We're here"... John said that he could see that but did they know where they were?... Then is when John finds out about the red light flashing. The paramedics return to the barn and John is trying to get the red light out. Can't get it out because the switch has reprogrammed itself. So he puts a plastic bucket over the light (it's raining cats and dogs all the while) But the red light blasts right through the bucket. Next a garbage bag over it. Still can see it. Finally John puts a towel and 2 garbage bags over the light and peace returns to the neighborhood.


Fast Forward to the Easter Brunch this morning ... We get the story of what happened so when we get home I call John and Mary and offer to kill the monster. We fixed it soon after we got there.



To the good side:

• The light was seen and reported by a neighbor.

• The paramedics found the house eventually.
• The neighbor watched for the paramedics and steered them to the right home.
  

To the bad side:

• The light went off by itself.. With no reason that we can see why.
• It could not be turned off.
• Paramedics responded unnecessarily.
• Paramedics did not know where to go and had to be chased down.

Herein lies some interesting questions about how we view the red light emergency system.

• Should 911 be called first if a red light is seen?
• Should the person reporting a red light keep a watch out and make sure the paramedics get to the right spot?
• If a light can't be turned off ... 99% of the time it has to do with the keychain remote switch having been deprogrammed by the user holding the button down too long. A good reason to come to Mondays Seminar on how to fix your red light.
• Paramedics are not familiar with our communities numbering and street system. I've been thinking we could change that with a little effort at City Hall by giving our streets and courts different names.
• Should we have a group of volunteers that are so familiar with the red light that they can be called to take care of problems like this? How do we get these people?
  

Are the Picture Collages... How about the links?

ron thomas


You've seen the groupings of pictures showing up on the page now? Just look below. Do these add anything to your experience of reading this blog? Or not? After we add a new theme picture on top do you want to be able to comment on it? Do you think we should keep the same picture for a long time or change it out often or not have one at all?

Do you use the links on the left?

Veryyyy Interesting 

Remember Time....

from an email sent by Blaine Kalar (Kay-ler)...


I haven't thought about "fender skirts" in years. When I was a kid, I considered it such a funny term. Made me think of a car in a dress. Thinking about "fender skirts" started me thinking about other words that quietly disappear from our language with hardly a notice.

Like "curb feelers" and "steering knobs." Since I'd been thinking of cars, my mind naturally went that direction first. Any kids will probably have to find some elderly person over 50 to explain some of these terms to you.

Remember "Continental kits?" They were rear bumper extenders and spare tire covers that were supposed to make any car as cool as a Lincoln Continental.

When did we quit calling them "emergency brakes?" At some point "parking brake" became the proper term. But I miss the hint of drama that went with "emergency brake."

I'm sad, too, that almost all the old folks are gone who would call the accelerator the "foot feed."

Didn't you ever wait at the street for your daddy to come home, so you could ride the "running board" up to the house?

Here's a phrase I heard all the time in my youth but never anymore "store-bought." Of course, just about everything is store-bought these days. But once it was bragging material to have a store-bought dress or a store-bought bag of candy.

"Coast to coast" is a phrase that once held all sorts of excitement and now means almost nothing. Now we take the term "worldwide" for granted. This floors me.

On a smaller scale, "wall-to-wall" was once a magical term in our homes. In the '50s, everyone covered his or her hardwood floors with, wow, wall-to-wall carpeting! Today, everyone replaces their wall-to-wall carpeting with hardwood floors. Go figure.

When's the last time you heard the quaint phrase "in a family way?" It's hard to imagine that the word "pregnant" was once considered a little too graphic, a little too clinical for use in polite company. So we had all that talk about stork visits and "being in a family way" or simply "expecting."

Apparently "brassiere" is a word no longer in usage. I said it the other day and my daughter cracked up. I guess it's just "bra" now. "Unmentionables" probably wouldn't be understood at all.

It's hard to recall that this word was once said in a whisper -"divorce." And no one is called a "divorcee" anymore. Certainly not a "gay divorcee."

Come to think of it, "confirmed bachelors" and "career girls" are long gone, too.

I always loved going to the "picture show," but I considered "movie" an affectation.

Most of these words go back to the '50s, but here's a pure-'60s word I came across the other day  "rat fink." Ooh, what a nasty put-down!

Here's a word I miss  "percolator." That was just a fun word to say. And what was it replaced with? "Coffeemaker." How dull. Mr. Coffee, I blame you for this.

I miss those made-up marketing words that were meant to sound so modern and now sound so retro. Words like "DynaFlow" and "ElectraLuxe." Introducing the 1963 Admiral TV, now with "SpectraVision!"

Food for thought  Was there a telethon that wiped out lumbago? Nobody complains of that anymore. Maybe that's what castor oil cured, because I never hear mothers threatening their kids with castor oil anymore.

Some words aren't gone, but are definitely on the endangered list. The one that grieves me most  "supper." Now everybody says "dinner." Save a great word. Invite someone to supper. Discuss fender skirts.

Someone forwarded this to me, and I thought some of us of a "certain age" would remember most of these. Those of us that are not old enough just learned something.

A Catered Mother's Day Meal...

ron thomas

At the Social Club meeting a vote was taken to have a catered meal on Mother's Day. The way it will work is. .... There will be a $10 per person charge.


As it stands now the clubhouse can only have 80 people seated. That means there will only be 80 tickets sold to this event. Tickets must be bought before the event.
Also, if you cannot come to the clubhouse.. there will be provisions made for unlimited take out dinners and the price for ordered takeout dinners will be the same.. $10.00... Volunteers will deliver them.

The committee selling the tickets will be Jean Hart, Betty Hanus and Gloria Mazzeo.The cutoff date for ticket purchases will be April 30th in order that we get the money to the caterer on time


You may want to consider that the restaurants in town are likely to be crowded on Mother's Day. Also, the price for the meal is extremely reasonable.

Why a catered dinner? Well moms just deserve a day off from cooking don't you think?


The meal will be served on May 8th. 1:00pm social hour.... Dining at 2:00pm. This repast will be catered by our local 4 star restauranteur... Shirley's on de Bay.


The menu will be:

• Roast Beef

• Pork

• Chicken stuffed with shrimp

• Scalloped Potatoes

• Baked beans

• Salad and desserts

The Social Club has agreed to tip our servers so you won't have to have that expense... another money saving plus for you. So get your tickets or orders in now while there is still time to get a good seat.

EASTER BRUNCH POTLUCK

RON THOMAS

This Saturday at the clubhouse. Come at 11:00 am. Bring your favorite breakfast and lunch dishes to share.

Tickets will be on sale for the Mother's Day catered dinner by Shirley's on de Bay at $10 per person..

New Home on Evergreen gets a garage floor

ron thomas

Jim Jobb's home from Deer lane....

ron thomas


On the 19th we had some hefty winds 45 to 60 miles an hour according to Newport Airport weather. Looks to me like the siding on Jim's home wasn't phased in the least.

You might remember from the last article that Jim's is the first home in our community to have a plastic siding. It looks great and is guaranteed for the life of the home and never needs painting. Best of all it cost him only $7000 installed. Jim said it is guaranteed to stand up to 130mph winds.

Previous reasons sited for disapproval of this type of siding were that it could not withstand our winds. Looks good to us....

Hmmm... Four of us were having a conversation about computers.....

ron thomas

Last night at the impromptu birthday/Social Club party... four of us Dale Rice, Jim Rose, Wayne Hill and myself found ourselves staring at each other when the subject of computers came up.... There was a lot of experience there and we shared ideas about networking, Firefox, digital pictures and all sorts of stuff. One subject just rolled into another... From basic conditions to more complex things and the locations of places to buy stuff to bragging rights about how our computers were built. We talked of Wi-Fi and networking and where to find a cable.... I enjoyed it immensely.

So I'm thinking what we need is a computer club where we meet and talk computer... Help one another... not a class just an informal get together where we celebrate our interests in computing. Those that have Notebook computers could bring them and we could use them to illustrate what we are talking about. You could come with answers and with questions and we could work and play together for fun.

If it developed into something that gathers a following we could get high speed internet piped into the clubhouse and try new ideas out.


4 guys talking and having fun is one thing but a club well, I don't know. Anyone interested? I could set up a meeting... What do you think?

Social Club meeting gaveled to a close and then....

PIXS BY RON THOMAS


As Ben Davi gaveled the March Social Club meeting to a close... Wife Donna and daughter Lisa announced that it was Ben's 65th birthday today and that all present were invited to stay and celebrate his birthday with a spaghetti dinner and birthday cake. Many trays of cheese and Italian Salami were also served with dinner rolls and a fresh, crisp salad. Celebrants of who there was 37 left around 7:30 after dinner and wine and a lot of talk.

You never know what is going to happen at a Social Club meeting.

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Jim Dodds building site for you...

Jim Dodds by email...



Jim has been building a website based on the comments from our readers over what they might like to see as a feature for our residents. Though he has not completed the site, it's under construction. The browser you use may affect what you see. For instance Jim says Firefox doesn't seem to understand what he has written in a few instances. At any rate a little kibitzing from our readers may help him with what you would like to see or what you saw that you really liked. Leave him a comment.

Here is a link to the new pages he is designing.....
New site

Charles Burke wants to share these photos with you...

You may want to make a comment to him about them..

Dungeness Crabs


Newport Docks 2004 Gray Whale

When you look at Milt's photo of Mt. St. Helens in the above picture...

ron thomas

Think of a couple of things...

• Now wouldn't that look like a flying saucer to some folks?
• Why don't we post an article after putting up a new theme picture so folks can talk about it in the comments?
  

EASTER BUNNY EGGS...

RON THOMAS


THERE IS A SIGN UP SHEET IN THE CLUB HOUSE...


If you do not want the Easter Bunny to hide Easter Eggs in your yard this year. Sign the list and we will see that Mr. Wiggley Ears gets your request.


For the rest of us get ready to hunt-em down and eat-em up.

Social Club Dinners Have a Problem...

ron thomas


The St. Patrick's Day dinner experienced a problem that could affect quality for future dinners and breakfasts.

Here is how a dinner works...

You have noticed when a dinner is being advertised that it usually has a sign up sheet? We think some of our folks don't understand the importance of that sheet.

That sheet tells the committee running the dinner how many tables to set up and how many place settings to put out . In the case of this dinner (St. Patrick's) it also was used for determining how much food was purchased by the Social Club and how much help would be needed to serve the dinner.

The sign-up sheet was taken down by the shoppers the day before the dinner and it was calculated how much food the Social Club would need to buy and then they went shopping and bought it. 21 people signed up for the dinner. 35 people showed up for the dinner and 2 dinners were sent home to folks who were laid up. 37-22=15 people who were not signed up. Fortunately, our shoppers overbought and everyone did get a dinner... Barely.

Sign up from now on ok?

RED LIGHT SEMINAR

Don't miss the coming red light seminar on the 29th of March at 1:00pm. You need to be there if you are new and want to understand the system. If you don't understand the system or you are having problems with it. Or, you are contemplating buying it.

This will be the time to learn. For years now Jim Rose and I have been going on free calls to fix simple things that residents have caused to the system and could have fixed themselves. It's always easier to call someone for free than to sit down and learn how to yourself.

Now calls are coming in about lights that don't have anything to do with the red lights but with the post lights.. Everything from changing light bulbs to why wires are brown or why some folks have sockets with tape on them or globe repair or replacement or fixing mounting brackets or rerouting wires or replacing worn out sockets or defective photo cells. These are the free calls that Jim and I have been doing for 3 years. Now the time has come for you to take responsibility for your own system. This seminar will show you how.

Larry Henson, as manager, is responsible for changing light bulbs in your post light. Now he doesn't understand the red light system nor does he understand any problems beyond changing a light bulb. Nor does he want to.. He contends it is the homeowner's responsibility.

I would like to emphasize that your red light system has absolutely no effect whatsoever on your post light... For instance it is impossible for it to effect how soon a post light burns out. The red light does absolutely nothing until activated. It just sits there doing nothing. It consumes nothing it just sits there.

This does not mean that good neighbor Jim Rose or I won't be there for you but we want you to shoulder the responsibility for your light by learning about its upkeep and cut down on the nuisance calls we are getting. Free is a good price for everyone but Jim and I want you take more responsibility for your light... because your free means work for us.

McKinley Services....

ron thomas

EDITORS COMMENT:
This article has a large on-going COMMENT conversation and is becoming difficult to follow as it approaches the bottom of the site and goes off into the ARCHIVES. Since it has not reached a conclusion yet we have moved it to the head of the webpage and put the comments from indivduals below. Afteter you read the comments you may want to put your 2 cents in too.


When you have a good experience with a contractor ... You ought to tell everybody about it. This is a fella that goes under your home and fixes level problems. In addition to that he found a water leak and fixed it. He came out with several recomendations. From instructions about air vents.. when to close them and when not to. Drainage ideas. And excellent suggetsions about what to do about your water heater to keep it from damaging your subfloor should it leak. These were all things I didn't know about with these modular homes since we had never had one before this experience.

My personal rating on a scale of one to five stars..... 5 stars. Price was $125.

Don't lose his phone number. Have already heard wonderful things about him. And we do need more people like him because Lee is getting older and Ron is swamped. Thank you for his name!
NancyLee Moore

Ron: I may have sent my first comment accidentally, and wasn't finished. Sorry folks if this is a repeat. I just paid for round trip ticket for my son-in-law to do a bunch of little odd jobs around my home. I have not personally, up to now, met but ONE honest, ethical, GOOD "licensed" contractor since I came here, and was doubting one existed. I have stories about plumbing contractors, electrical contractors, carpet installers, and contractors, in general, that would make you sick to your stomach. Recently had rubber seal replaced on my garage door, and that was an experience that cost me $140, 2 trip charges, and the man messed up the once perfect operation of my garage door because he didn't put the screws back in that held the door sections together. Ha Ha Ha, Oh my "I forgot to put the screws back in"! Oh, it was REALLY "funny". Remember, this was just to install a rubber seal, as this was the ONLY problem I had. Two trips! Two weeks apart. I am to the point of making the mistake of letting things go for lack of any faith in anybody who works in this area. I am happy to hear that someone is pleased with any contractors work! The state of Oregon seems to be interested in taking the contractors money for license, insurance bonds etc, and am not sure they really care if the contractor is worth his/her salt, or not. I can recommend one person, so far, and that's the person who repaired my roof after another group made a big mess of a repair, and the first big wind, my neighbor called to say my shingles on the ridge were flapping in the breeze. Ho Hum. Story of my life with contractors! I'll not lose this number. Thanks and thanks again.
Ruthanne Carson


Just so there's no misunderstanding here. I'm talking "licensed contractors", which I think may be what Ron was referring to. ??? I have no complaints about Cleda's Ron. But thought the reference was to licensed contractors. Maybe not.
If anyone wants to know who NOT to call, let me know.
Ruthanne Carson

And so we have here a kernal of an idea... Who would like to start a column here on the website devoted to keeping track of our folks' experience with contractors? Maybe a rating system or what have you? It would all be on one page with ratings anyone could look up when they are looking for somebody.

I have too many irons in the fire but am willing to set someone up to do it. Email me.
Ron Thomas

Previously, left a question as to whether or not we could do that...name names etc., without getting into some kind of hot water? I like this idea, and think it might be good for us. Know it's difficult to get referrals as one persons' poison might be someone elses' delight. So the rating thing ought to work, if people knew to go there and check it out, etc. Am still hesitant because of what could be some liability involved? Am no lawyer and don't know any Oregon lawyers to find out. The Oregon Licensing Board expects one to give the offending person a chance to correct problems, however, if some company/person has screwed up a job, I don't want them back to further screw it up, which is what my experience was. Makes me want to toss in the homeowners towel.
Ruthanne Carson

Legality is an important issue.
I've spoken to Jim Dodds about that issue on the site he has created and have been thinking hard about it since.

What we might do to get rid of any legal issues is to only rate those that we like. This would result in a list of contractor experiences rated from average to excellent. Also, a box could be put in for checking if the resident used the contractor but does NOT want to rate a contractor for some reason.

This could result in a list of rated contractors and a list of contractors that were not rated for some reason.

The homeowner could then choose what they wanted to do. Go with a rated contractor or venture into unchartered waters.
Ron Thomas

The site I created with the rating poll allows you to input anything you want, for the example that is posted on the site I used:

Poor
Below Average
Average
Good
Very Good

However you can add anything you want or change it entirely. You can have 50 choices if you wish...so the poll format is up to you. You could have:

Would Recommend
Would Not
Dig them a grave
Give `em a pot of Gold

everything in the poll format is open..
Jim Dodds

I like the idea of a no holds barred type of site..after all, a LOT of contractors have made a LOT of money from the residents of Longview Hills, over the years, and we ought to have the right to blast them if we feel they deserve it, or praise them to Heaven, if they deserve it. Maybe if some of them read it, they might get the idea that they can't pawn off inferior work on people and continue to get work! Now, I realize that just because I'd like to kick a few hind-ends, based on my own bad experiences, doesn't mean it's the thing to do, nor does it make it "legal" if one of them wants to get a little "testy" about it! So, if it's not a matter of liability, I say "don't be bashful". Jim, your ideas sound just fine to me! Will this be coming up at the next meeting?
Ruthanne Carson

If it's decided that other people think there is a need for this sort of page, I'd offer to do it, but would need some help getting it set up, etc.--sounds like Jim has a plan already.
Ruthanne Carson

The Social Club is for Social Activities. This is out of their purvue but the Comunity Mediating Committee has brought this up and it is the reason that the link to the Oregon State Contractor Board appears on the web page. It was also requested by them that we research a way to do this that would keep us away from legal problems.

As far as attending a meeting on the subject you can call Blaine Kalar (KAYLER) the current chairman and request it be put on the agenda and ask for a meeting date and time.

What gets put on the webpage is more of a what people want type of thing. We hear enough positive requests and it will be put on. The Social Club never has provided any help to this page. However we have spent countless hours helping the Social Club. For that reason the content of the webpage is upto its contributors and editor. Right now that would be those that write comments and those that write articles (3) . That would be Cleda Hampton, Jim Dodds and me that write articles. You are all cordially invited to be a team writer on the web page just email me.
Ron Thomas

Ruthanne,
The software that is used is "very" simple, the poll wizard is easy to create for each contractor. If you decide you would like to give it a whirl, it will take about an hour to walk you through the software functions.


Jim
Jim Dodds

Editors note: I goofed the first time around on the coding of these pixs. That is what made the web page out of shape. You can help in the future by telling me when you see a mistake. Thanks to Jim Dodds for catching the error... Sorry, this is a learn as you go operation. :)

We wore the green..

ron thomas


25 people signed up for the St. Patrick's Day festivities... 35 showed up for dinner and 2 dinners were sent home... Despite that there was plenty for everyone not to mention the green beer (a personal favorite of mine).

If you weren't there and have been thinking about joining in park activities you missed a good time but fret not because the Easter Potluck Brunch is coming up on Saturday the 26th...


A lot of folks showed up to help today at high noon and the dinner was set up in nothing flat as well as a re-arranging of the storage room.


Hope you found a 4 leaf clover we did.

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A Volunteer Opportunity for a person that can use a computer...

Ron Thomas


We have clout and if we stand together as a group we can help one another in a variety of things. But this one is being championed now... We need a web page where folks can come and rate their experiences with contractors and local bussiness'. Such a site would guide folks to the business' that provide good services and steer us away from those that don't. I know the Better Business Bureau does that but it is to large and impersonal for a small community like ours. Because we do get older and are less able to do the things we used to we more and more have to turn to Services to get our things done. After seeing RuthAnn's experiences and seeing what Jim Dodds had to say I think it would be a great idea to have a place where you could go and read about how a work group performed in our community.


Our website is an ideal place for such an extension. We would create the site and take care of the technical aspect of it but another person here in the park would keep it upto date, categorized and organized. This is a job that a person with a computer could do. If you are disabled but want to help the park in some way and your neighbors this could be for you.

Residents fight park-sale law

from the stateman journal

Manufactured-home park owner says he won't evict anyone

CRYSTAL BOLNER
Statesman Journal

March 5, 2005

For-sale signs are posted on 16 homes in the Iris Village manufactured-home park, a 28-lot housing park off O'Neill Road.

The residents in the park are upset about a law that allows manufactured-home parks to be subdivided and individual lots sold.

Though residents are given first choice to purchase the individual lots, loopholes in the law could allow park owners to force residents off the property if they choose not to buy.

Donna Burleigh and her husband, Stephen, faced that choice four months ago when they received a letter from the owner of the park saying the park had been subdivided, and they had 60 days to decide whether they were going to buy or move.

The note said: "Please be advised that if you elect not to purchase your lot, we will be selling it to another buyer who will probably locate a new manufactured home on the lot. The sale of your lot to a third party who is interested in locating another manufactured home on the lot will result in your having to remove your home from the lot. We do not intend to own any lots in Iris Village in the future, so we recommend that you purchase your lot if at all possible."

Burleigh, then the assistant manager of the park, said that was when she began talking to her neighbors.

"It was scary," Burleigh said. "Where do I move this home? It doesn't have wheels underneath it, and I don't have the money to move it if I wanted to."

Manufactured home parks in Oregon are one of the victims of rising property values across the state, said Chuck Carpenter, executive director of the Manufactured Housing Communities of Oregon, a group that represents park owners.

Carpenter said that vacancy rates are an ongoing problem in many parks, and owners are facing the choice: either subdivide the parks and sell off lots or shut down the park and redevelop the property for other uses.

The law, passed by the Legislature in 2001, allows residents to purchase properties in the park, giving tenants a way to stay when the park might otherwise close, Carpenter said.

"For some manufactured (home park) owners in Oregon, the land has become extremely valuable, the rent simply doesn't cover that value anymore," he said.

The owners are required by law to offer the current renters of the property the chance to purchase the lots.

If purchased, the parks are treated as if they were a planned unit development, with a homeowners association taking on management of roads and utilities.

"By the time you figure the tax advantages of them owning their own land, they come out ahead," Carpenter said.

Not all residents in manufactured home parks see it that way.

In the case of Iris Village, the manufactured home park wasn't built to all the normal subdivision requirements, such as street width, sidewalk setbacks and sewer and water specifications.

So when owner Brian Fitterer of Newport Beach, Calif., tried to get residents to purchase their properties, some were leery of purchasing properties with utility systems that, once bought, would be their responsibility to maintain.

Sharon Forsell, 60, a teacher, who lives in Iris Village, told state Rep. Kim Thatcher, R-Keizer, and Sen. Charles Starr, R-Hillsboro, in a town hall meeting last week that she worried if she purchased her lot and anything happened to the water and sewer systems on her property, she could not afford to fix them.

"Why can't the law require the owner of the park to bring everything up to code before he's allowed to sell it to someone else? I'm on a fixed income. I can't afford to get stuck with this problem," Forsell told Thatcher.

After hearing that residents were organizing against purchasing lots in Iris Village, Fitterer sent a letter to representatives of the Manufactured Home Owners of Oregon saying that he would not require residents of Iris Village to move and that he never intended to require them to move.

Interviewed by phone, Fitterer, who owns 25 manufactured home parks in Oregon and several others in California, Washington and Nevada, said that he was happy to keep the property if people don't want to buy.

"If they want to keep renting, that's fine," Fitterer said. "Obviously, some of these people flunked elementary algebra if they don't see the benefit of owning the land under their homes. Manufactured homes depreciate. The land's the valuable thing, not the home."

To avoid problems in the future between manufactured home park owners and tenants of the parks that are subdivided, the two lobbying groups working with the manufactured home industry in Oregon said this week that they plan to begin working later this year to revise the current law to close loopholes such as those encountered by residents of Iris Village.

They likely will introduce a bill in the next Legislative session, both groups said.

The current law was revised once already in 2003 to forbid park owners from building stick homes in manufactured home parks.

cbolner@StatesmanJournal.com or (503) 589-6967